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x-windows revisited
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jim bob and joe bob
2005-02-19 05:49:46 UTC
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Back again trying to get x-windows to work. Beige G3 300mHz, 500+MB
ram, using Debian woody installed on a 4.3 gig external SCSI drive.
Startx consistantly fails. It seems like the sticking point is the
mouse driver. The system fails for lack of a core pointing device. I
have an adb mouse and a usb logitec trackball connected. There really
doesn't seem to be an option for either in the initial configuration. I
have chosen psaux because when the system boots it claims to have found
a PS/2 mouse which I am assuming to be the adb. USB seems to be
undetected. Is USB support on woody broken/faulty/non-existant? The
log shows a Configured Mouse and a psaux mouse that it can't identify.
Any suggestions what to call my mice? Is there a nice way to
reconfigure the system to include them? Must I edit XF86Config-4? If
that is the case what should I change?
dpkg-reconfigure x-windows-system from root prompt really does nothing
that I can tell. Replacing psaux with adb in the config file doesn't
help either (surprise, surprise).
It seems like after 6 months of wrestling this thing I am finally
getting close. Any suggestions will be most appreciated.
KK
Anton Ertl
2005-02-19 09:39:13 UTC
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Post by jim bob and joe bob
Is USB support on woody broken/faulty/non-existant?
IIRC Woody has a 2.2 kernel by default, and that probably does not
support USB. Try a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel.

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jim bob and joe bob
2005-02-19 16:31:22 UTC
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Post by Anton Ertl
Post by jim bob and joe bob
Is USB support on woody broken/faulty/non-existant?
IIRC Woody has a 2.2 kernel by default, and that probably does not
support USB. Try a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel.
- anton
How can you tell which kernal you have? I have failed to learn where
the kernal is located. The boot kernal used by bootx is 2.4. Even so,
it seems like there should be some support for adb from a distro that
claims to run on a mac.

KK
Anton Ertl
2005-02-19 17:06:24 UTC
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Post by jim bob and joe bob
How can you tell which kernal you have?
uname -r
cat /proc/version

- anton
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jim bob and joe bob
2005-02-19 17:40:32 UTC
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Post by Anton Ertl
Post by jim bob and joe bob
How can you tell which kernal you have?
uname -r
cat /proc/version
- anton
Thanks
kk
jim bob and joe bob
2005-02-19 20:03:18 UTC
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Post by jim bob and joe bob
Post by Anton Ertl
Post by jim bob and joe bob
How can you tell which kernal you have?
uname -r
cat /proc/version
- anton
Thanks
kk
It's version 2.4.18.
kk
Anton Ertl
2005-02-19 23:00:02 UTC
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jim bob and joe bob <***@milo.corn> writes:
[USB mouse]
Post by jim bob and joe bob
It's version 2.4.18.
Should be able to do USB

What does

lsmod

say? You could try

modprobe hid
modprobe mousedev

- anton
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jim bob and joe bob
2005-02-21 00:39:33 UTC
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Post by Anton Ertl
[USB mouse]
Post by jim bob and joe bob
It's version 2.4.18.
Should be able to do USB
What does
lsmod
say? You could try
modprobe hid
modprobe mousedev
- anton
I confess that I have not yet tried your last suggestion. It occurs to
me that I have asked the wrong question. Probably what I really need to
know is how to get Debian or x-windows to recognise a adb mouse. There
is a macintosh keyboard selection in the system installer but nothing
that specifically mentions adb or macintosh mice. That is more ancient
technology that should be in some way supported. Any clues there?
kk
I R A Darth Aggie
2005-02-21 17:58:03 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:39:33 -0600,
+ me that I have asked the wrong question. Probably what I really need to
+ know is how to get Debian or x-windows to recognise a adb mouse. There
+ is a macintosh keyboard selection in the system installer but nothing
+ that specifically mentions adb or macintosh mice. That is more ancient
+ technology that should be in some way supported. Any clues there?
Do you have "mdetect" installed? if not, then "apt-get install
mdetect", then run mdetect. It should tell you what meeses you have
installed, what protocol they use, what their device names are.

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Anton Ertl
2005-02-22 08:38:43 UTC
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Post by jim bob and joe bob
I confess that I have not yet tried your last suggestion. It occurs to
me that I have asked the wrong question. Probably what I really need to
know is how to get Debian or x-windows to recognise a adb mouse. There
is a macintosh keyboard selection in the system installer but nothing
that specifically mentions adb or macintosh mice. That is more ancient
technology that should be in some way supported. Any clues there?
My XF86Config-4 contains the following mouse configurations.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Both are used in the ServerLayout section.

According to dmesg, I have an ADB mouse (the trackpad) and an USB mouse:

ADB mouse at 3, handler set to 4 (trackpad)
input: ADB mouse on adb3:3.01/input
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Topro USB Mouse] on usb-0001:10:1b.0-1
input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Topro USB Mouse] on usb-0001:10:1b.0-1

Both work, unfortunately (I would love to be able to disable the
trackpad).

- anton
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