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[CWO4 Dave Mann]

I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I d/l
and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

I thought that holding the letter "c" down right after the fanfare sound
would force the CD to boot.

No luck.

I tried "C" (shift + c"), holding the stsrt button down with the c, checking
the contreol panel to make sure the cd was there (scsi3 and autoplay). I
changed autoplay to no auto.

Nada.

Any ideas? I am trying to resurrect these PC's for a low income Internet
cafe donation.

Cheers,

Dave

[jim bob and joe bob]

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I d/l
and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).
I thought that holding the letter "c" down right after the fanfare sound
would force the CD to boot.
No luck.
I tried "C" (shift + c"), holding the stsrt button down with the c, checking
the contreol panel to make sure the cd was there (scsi3 and autoplay). I
changed autoplay to no auto.
Nada.
Any ideas? I am trying to resurrect these PC's for a low income Internet
cafe donation.
Cheers,
Dave

You could try cmd-opt-shft-delete. It may be that the ubuntu disk will
not boot your machines. Some of the older ones require Bootx to be run
from a MacOS partition.
kk

[CWO4 Dave Mann]

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I
d/l and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).
I thought that holding the letter "c" down right after the fanfare sound
would force the CD to boot.
No luck.
I tried "C" (shift + c"), holding the stsrt button down with the c, checking
the contreol panel to make sure the cd was there (scsi3 and autoplay). I
changed autoplay to no auto.
Nada.
Any ideas? I am trying to resurrect these PC's for a low income Internet
cafe donation.
Cheers,
Dave

You could try cmd-opt-shft-delete. It may be that the ubuntu disk will
not boot your machines. Some of the older ones require Bootx to be run
from a MacOS partition.
kk

Thanks for the tip. I am off to the workshop to try it.

Cheers,

Dave

[Michel Klijmij]

On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I d/l
and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You might
have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

[jim bob and joe bob]

Post by Michel Klijmij
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I d/l
and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You might
have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

I have had some success with Debian woody on my Beige G3 and on a 603e
clone. I never did get X-windows to work on the clone and it took some
doing on the G3 too but finally did work. The clone has since developed
hardware troubles and I have parted it out to fix another machine. I did
get the ubuntu cd to boot into the installer on the G3 once but had no
success installing it. It was a live cd and was hoping to get it to run
from the cd but no such luck. I don't remember exactly what I did to
get it to run but I think I used Bootx. That is how I boot Debian on
both machines.
kk

[CWO4 Dave Mann]

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by Michel Klijmij
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I
d/l and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You
might have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

I have had some success with Debian woody on my Beige G3 and on a 603e
clone. I never did get X-windows to work on the clone and it took some
doing on the G3 too but finally did work. The clone has since developed
hardware troubles and I have parted it out to fix another machine. I did
get the ubuntu cd to boot into the installer on the G3 once but had no
success installing it. It was a live cd and was hoping to get it to run
from the cd but no such luck. I don't remember exactly what I did to
get it to run but I think I used Bootx. That is how I boot Debian on
both machines.
kk

Hi all, thanks for your input. I really appreciate you taking the time to
guide me.

I have decided to simply reinstall the noirmal Mac operating system. Some
of the machines already have MS Office for MAC (MS Office 2001) with
Internet Explorer so it looks like that is going to have to be the
standard. I don't have the time to tinker together something. I was
hopeful that I would be able to do a kickstart CD and put it in, blow away
the MAC system and have a clean Linux systm. Not to be, evidently.

Thanks a lot, again!

Cheers,

Dave

[jim bob and joe bob]

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by Michel Klijmij
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I
d/l and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You
might have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

I have had some success with Debian woody on my Beige G3 and on a 603e
clone. I never did get X-windows to work on the clone and it took some
doing on the G3 too but finally did work. The clone has since developed
hardware troubles and I have parted it out to fix another machine. I did
get the ubuntu cd to boot into the installer on the G3 once but had no
success installing it. It was a live cd and was hoping to get it to run
from the cd but no such luck. I don't remember exactly what I did to
get it to run but I think I used Bootx. That is how I boot Debian on
both machines.
kk

Hi all, thanks for your input. I really appreciate you taking the time to
guide me.
I have decided to simply reinstall the noirmal Mac operating system. Some
of the machines already have MS Office for MAC (MS Office 2001) with
Internet Explorer so it looks like that is going to have to be the
standard. I don't have the time to tinker together something. I was
hopeful that I would be able to do a kickstart CD and put it in, blow away
the MAC system and have a clean Linux systm. Not to be, evidently.
Thanks a lot, again!
Cheers,
Dave

I still run mostly MacOS. We have accumulated a pretty good base of mac
software and we are hesitant to leave that all behind. I wanted to see
what linux was like though and there are some things I do like better
about it. The main feature for me is protected memory which makes it
considerably more stable.
kk

[CWO4 Dave Mann]

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by Michel Klijmij
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I
d/l and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You
might have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

I have had some success with Debian woody on my Beige G3 and on a 603e
clone. I never did get X-windows to work on the clone and it took some
doing on the G3 too but finally did work. The clone has since developed
hardware troubles and I have parted it out to fix another machine. I did
get the ubuntu cd to boot into the installer on the G3 once but had no
success installing it. It was a live cd and was hoping to get it to run
from the cd but no such luck. I don't remember exactly what I did to
get it to run but I think I used Bootx. That is how I boot Debian on
both machines.
kk

Hi all, thanks for your input. I really appreciate you taking the time
to guide me.
I have decided to simply reinstall the noirmal Mac operating system.
Some of the machines already have MS Office for MAC (MS Office 2001) with
Internet Explorer so it looks like that is going to have to be the
standard. I don't have the time to tinker together something. I was
hopeful that I would be able to do a kickstart CD and put it in, blow away
the MAC system and have a clean Linux systm. Not to be, evidently.
Thanks a lot, again!
Cheers,
Dave

I still run mostly MacOS. We have accumulated a pretty good base of mac
software and we are hesitant to leave that all behind. I wanted to see
what linux was like though and there are some things I do like better
about it. The main feature for me is protected memory which makes it
considerably more stable.
kk

I checked and these machines all have 8.1 on them. Would you think that a
later OS version would improve things? Right now I have taken 12 of them
apart in the shop, vacuumed them out (some had never been opened and were
literally FULL of dust bunnies). I've pulled all connectors loose, used
contact cleaner on them and reseated them. Same with memory sticks. My
next step is to pull all of the drives and check and clean them on the
bench. Finally, I will use a plastic cleaning material to refurbish the
case exterior.

I've got one of the 5400's sitting stripped down on the bench and tuned into
www.sky.fm playing cool tunes. I'm surprised that the internal audio is so
good.

Your ideas, advice, etc, Sir?

Cheers,

Dave

[jim bob and joe bob]

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by jim bob and joe bob

Post by Michel Klijmij
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:22:13 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann

Post by CWO4 Dave Mann
I have a bunch of PPC's mostly 5400's, some 5200's and some 7200's. I
d/l and burned the Ubuntu iso (using K3b here on Linux).

That's oldworld machines, they're not supported by Ubuntu AFAIK. You
might have better luck with an older Yellow Dog Linux.

I have had some success with Debian woody on my Beige G3 and on a 603e
clone. I never did get X-windows to work on the clone and it took some
doing on the G3 too but finally did work. The clone has since developed
hardware troubles and I have parted it out to fix another machine. I did
get the ubuntu cd to boot into the installer on the G3 once but had no
success installing it. It was a live cd and was hoping to get it to run
from the cd but no such luck. I don't remember exactly what I did to
get it to run but I think I used Bootx. That is how I boot Debian on
both machines.
kk

Hi all, thanks for your input. I really appreciate you taking the time
to guide me.
I have decided to simply reinstall the noirmal Mac operating system.
Some of the machines already have MS Office for MAC (MS Office 2001) with
Internet Explorer so it looks like that is going to have to be the
standard. I don't have the time to tinker together something. I was
hopeful that I would be able to do a kickstart CD and put it in, blow away
the MAC system and have a clean Linux systm. Not to be, evidently.
Thanks a lot, again!
Cheers,
Dave

I still run mostly MacOS. We have accumulated a pretty good base of mac
software and we are hesitant to leave that all behind. I wanted to see
what linux was like though and there are some things I do like better
about it. The main feature for me is protected memory which makes it
considerably more stable.
kk

I checked and these machines all have 8.1 on them. Would you think that a
later OS version would improve things? Right now I have taken 12 of them
apart in the shop, vacuumed them out (some had never been opened and were
literally FULL of dust bunnies). I've pulled all connectors loose, used
contact cleaner on them and reseated them. Same with memory sticks. My
next step is to pull all of the drives and check and clean them on the
bench. Finally, I will use a plastic cleaning material to refurbish the
case exterior.
I've got one of the 5400's sitting stripped down on the bench and tuned into
www.sky.fm playing cool tunes. I'm surprised that the internal audio is so
good.
Your ideas, advice, etc, Sir?
Cheers,
Dave

Not sure whether you mean to use 8.1 as a launch point for linux or as
the main OS. In the former case if bootx will run, there is no need to
upgrade. In the latter it depends what the software you wish to run
demands of the OS. 8.1 is probably not a bad choice for the hardware
you describe. Keep in mind that whatever software platform you choose
the later the version the more resource intensive it tends to be.
(Memory, CPU/bus speed, drive space, etc.)
kk