CrossOver Office on LinuxPPC?

[Hsuan-Yeh Chang]

Dear All,

Has anyone tried CrossOver Office on a Linux PowerPC? This
would be a way to run Windows application on PowerPC machines..

Thanks!

HYC

[Keith Keller]

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
Has anyone tried CrossOver Office on a Linux PowerPC? This
would be a way to run Windows application on PowerPC machines..

Crossover Office depends on Wine. From http://www.winehq.org:

"Wine provides both a development toolkit for porting Windows source code
to Unix as well as a program loader, allowing many unmodified Windows
programs to run on x86-based Unixes [...]"
^^^

So I think you're out of luck. I think you'd be out of luck anyway,
since Windows apps are not compiled for the ppc arch; you'd need an x86
(or any other arch that Windows supports) hardware emulator on a PPC
platform before thinking of using something like wine. In theory I
suppose you could get the source and compile it for ppc, but at that
point is it really worth it?

What's the purpose of your question? Do you wish to run a specific app
on linux-ppc? Perhaps there's another solution.

--keith

[Hsuan-Yeh Chang]

Post by Keith Keller
What's the purpose of your question? Do you wish to run a specific app
on linux-ppc? Perhaps there's another solution.
--keith

The real reason why I'm asking is that my wife has a PowerG3
running OS 9.1. Since in these days, no one is updating application
for use in OS 9.1, I am thinking of installing either Debian or
debian-derived linux on it so that my wife can use at least the
most up-to-date web browser (Firefox). Further, if the Linux
installation can run Adobe Photoshop and/or Illustrator, it will
be the best. Since I have a copy of those software in Windows
version only, so I started this thread...

The presumption is that we don't want to spend a whole lot of
money on purchasing new software, just for upgrading to OS X...

HYC

[Rod Smith]

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
The real reason why I'm asking is that my wife has a PowerG3
running OS 9.1. Since in these days, no one is updating application
for use in OS 9.1, I am thinking of installing either Debian or
debian-derived linux on it so that my wife can use at least the
most up-to-date web browser (Firefox). Further, if the Linux
installation can run Adobe Photoshop and/or Illustrator, it will
be the best. Since I have a copy of those software in Windows
version only, so I started this thread...
The presumption is that we don't want to spend a whole lot of
money on purchasing new software, just for upgrading to OS X...

Chances are the machine isn't fast enough to run Windows in an x86
emulator like Bochs at sufficient speed to run new Windows programs. You
can, though, install Linux and run Linux-native programs. You can also use
Linux's PowerPC virtual machine software, Mac-on-Linux (MoL;
http://www.maconlinux.org) to run Mac OS 9.x programs. (MoL actually runs
MacOS in a virtual machine environment, but because it doesn't need to run
a CPU emulator, it provides good speed. It's similar to Mac OS X's Classic
environment.)

Overall, I don't see any legal way of doing what you want without spending
some money on new hardware and/or software. If you're willing to accept
open source alternatives for some or all of the software you want to run,
though, you can reduce the costs a lot, and maybe eliminate them all. The
GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) is an oft-cited open source alternative to
Photoshop, but I can't guarantee it'll do everything you want. If you post
a list of other critical applications, people may be able to point you to
Linux-native alternatives.

[Hsuan-Yeh Chang]

Post by Rod Smith
Chances are the machine isn't fast enough to run Windows in an x86
emulator like Bochs at sufficient speed to run new Windows programs. You
can, though, install Linux and run Linux-native programs. You can also use
Linux's PowerPC virtual machine software, Mac-on-Linux (MoL;
http://www.maconlinux.org) to run Mac OS 9.x programs. (MoL actually runs
MacOS in a virtual machine environment, but because it doesn't need to run
a CPU emulator, it provides good speed. It's similar to Mac OS X's Classic
environment.)
Overall, I don't see any legal way of doing what you want without spending
some money on new hardware and/or software. If you're willing to accept
open source alternatives for some or all of the software you want to run,
though, you can reduce the costs a lot, and maybe eliminate them all. The
GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) is an oft-cited open source alternative to
Photoshop, but I can't guarantee it'll do everything you want. If you post
a list of other critical applications, people may be able to point you to
Linux-native alternatives.

Thanks for providing so many useful info. However, it looks to me that the
best solution now is to keep the way it is, i.e. running OS 9.1 + Adobe
products as it is, and meanwhile suffering for the inconvenience of old
browsers...

[Jonathan Bartlett]

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
Thanks for providing so many useful info. However, it looks to me that the
best solution now is to keep the way it is, i.e. running OS 9.1 + Adobe
products as it is, and meanwhile suffering for the inconvenience of old
browsers...

FYI -- there was a decent Mozilla released for OS/9. That's what my
wife uses.

http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~harunaga/mozilla-macos9/
http://www.wamcom.org/latest-131/

Jon
----
Learn to program using Linux x86 assembly language
http://www.cafeshops.com/bartlettpublish.8640017

[Keith Keller]

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
The real reason why I'm asking is that my wife has a PowerG3
running OS 9.1. Since in these days, no one is updating application
for use in OS 9.1, I am thinking of installing either Debian or
debian-derived linux on it so that my wife can use at least the
most up-to-date web browser (Firefox). Further, if the Linux
installation can run Adobe Photoshop and/or Illustrator, it will
be the best. Since I have a copy of those software in Windows
version only, so I started this thread...

Hmm. Presumably your wife is currently not running Photoshop and/or
Illustrator on her OS 9 machine. If she is, then you can upgrade to
OS X and run them in Classic, or use linux and run them in MOL. If
not, then you're not really talking about replacing her software, but
adding new software. In that case, I'd put Windows on the x86 box you
probably have lying around (you don't have the software without the
hardware, eh?), let her use that when she needs those programs, and have
her use linux and/or OS X on her G3 for everything else.

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
The presumption is that we don't want to spend a whole lot of
money on purchasing new software, just for upgrading to OS X...

As others have mentioned, there are open-source programs that duplicate
some of what Photoshop does. I don't know a similar program for
Illustrator (I don't even know what Illustrator does), but you can check
freshmeat.net to see if such a program exists.

In summary:

--if she runs Photoshop and/or Illustrator in OS 9, she can continue to
run them in Classic or MOL
--if she doesn't use them in OS 9, but elsewhere, have her continue to
run them elsewhere

Not the ideal solutions, obviously, but perhaps they'll be sufficient.

--keith

[Blaise Li]

Keith Keller wrote in message

Post by Keith Keller
As others have mentioned, there are open-source programs that duplicate
some of what Photoshop does. I don't know a similar program for
Illustrator

For Illustrator, there is Inkscape, but it is not fully compatible.

bli

[Rod Smith]

Post by Hsuan-Yeh Chang
Has anyone tried CrossOver Office on a Linux PowerPC? This
would be a way to run Windows application on PowerPC machines..

This won't work; CrossOver Office is an x86-only application (based on
WINE) for running x86-only applications. If you want to run Windows
applications on PowerPC machines, you'll need a CPU emulator, such as
Bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net). The last I checked, this did run on
Linux for PowerPC, but I don't use it much because my PPC machine is
pretty elderly and therefore runs an x86 emulator very slowly.

That said, I have heard of some plans to integrate an x86 emulator with
WINE to run Windows applications from non-x86 platforms. I'm afraid I
don't have a URL, though, and I don't know if any projects to do this are
actually producing real code or if it's just somebody's pipe dream. You
could try a Web search, though.