BootX okay with Mac 8.5 (8.6)??

[Bob Ashley]

I'm prepping for a Debian hard-disk install with BootX on a Powermac
7600/132. I'm new at this. I have a Mac 8.5 original CD.

As I understand it, any o/s after 8.1 is problematic with BootX. Should
I drop back down to 7.5.x? Available free, that is, 7.5.x from Apple, no?

Purpose of asking: To see whether or not I can safely go with the o/s I
already own.

Suggestions appreciated.

Bob

[Mikael Pettersson]

Post by Bob Ashley
I'm prepping for a Debian hard-disk install with BootX on a Powermac
7600/132. I'm new at this. I have a Mac 8.5 original CD.
As I understand it, any o/s after 8.1 is problematic with BootX.

Where did you get info from? I use BootX + MacOS9 on my Beige G3 w/o problems.

[Bob Ashley]

I got the info from the install notes. Perhaps I've mistakenly inferred
that the generalized "files" referred to below _includes_ BootX when
really all that is meant are the Debian files.

Even so, the excerpt below makes it sound like higher than 8.1 "may" be
a problem.

Here's the excerpt...

Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For PowerPC

4.2.3 Where to Find Installation Files
...When downloading files, you should also pay attention to the type of
file system you are downloading them to, unless you will use floppies
for the kernel and drivers.

..The installer _cannot_ access files on an HFS+ filesystem. MacOS
System 8.1 and above may use HFS+ filesystems; NewWorld PowerMacs all
use HFS+ by default...(emphasis on _cannot_ in original)

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-downloading-files


Thanks,

Bob

Post by Mikael Pettersson

Post by Bob Ashley
I'm prepping for a Debian hard-disk install with BootX on a Powermac
7600/132. I'm new at this. I have a Mac 8.5 original CD.
As I understand it, any o/s after 8.1 is problematic with BootX.

Where did you get info from? I use BootX + MacOS9 on my Beige G3 w/o problems.

[I R A Darth Aggie]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:00:02 -0400,

+ Even so, the excerpt below makes it sound like higher than 8.1 "may" be
+ a problem.

It isn't the operating system that's the problem. Its the
*filesystem*. The installer can not access any files on an HFS+
filesystem. If you attempt to install Debian from an HFS+ filesystem
it will *fail*.

+ ..The installer _cannot_ access files on an HFS+ filesystem. MacOS
+ System 8.1 and above ***may use*** HFS+ filesystems;

Note my additional emphasis. As I recall, one had to reformat the
drive to get an HFS+ filesystem, so I would guess you won't have this
problem. But you *may* have done so.

James

[rib]

Post by I R A Darth Aggie
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:00:02 -0400,

+ Even so, the excerpt below makes it sound like higher than 8.1 "may" be
+ a problem.

It isn't the operating system that's the problem. Its the
*filesystem*. The installer can not access any files on an HFS+
filesystem. If you attempt to install Debian from an HFS+ filesystem
it will *fail*.

Yes, I get this part. They sure repeat it enough times in the install
notes! Sorry, my wording wasn't very good.

Post by I R A Darth Aggie

+ ..The installer _cannot_ access files on an HFS+ filesystem.

MacOS

Post by I R A Darth Aggie

+ System 8.1 and above ***may use*** HFS+ filesystems;

Note my additional emphasis. As I recall, one had to reformat the
drive to get an HFS+ filesystem, so I would guess you won't have this
problem. But you *may* have done so.

Okay, thanks. Your clarification on ***may use*** helps. You suggest
that to get the HFS+ is a deliberate procedure, whereas I read the
passage that what one gets is what one gets, period. That it may be HFS
or it may be HFS+, more like Apple shipped one and/or the other. So
I'll just try to find out with one of the resident o/s's utilities.

Thanks, this helps a lot!

Bob

Post by I R A Darth Aggie
James
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isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

[I R A Darth Aggie]

On 1 Feb 2005 09:46:02 -0800,

+ Okay, thanks. Your clarification on ***may use*** helps. You suggest
+ that to get the HFS+ is a deliberate procedure, whereas I read the
+ passage that what one gets is what one gets, period.

As I recall, and it's been a long time since I thought about making a
switch from HFS to HFS+ so I could be very mistaken, one had to
reformat the drive and lay down the HFS+ file system.

+ That it may be HFS
+ or it may be HFS+, more like Apple shipped one and/or the other. So
+ I'll just try to find out with one of the resident o/s's utilities.

If you have a Linux LiveCD, you could boot to that and try to mount
the disk/filesystem in question. If you can see all your files, it's
HFS. If you see but one file, it's HFS+.

James